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@Bob
Haggis, the great pretender. Obviously you didn't even bother to read the article. Not part of your work contract? Geez.
Hint: 1988
More hint: 1988 was the year Haggis started pretending.
Even more hint: 1988 was the year Haggis left Scientology but stayed another 21 years.
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@Jeffrey, @BobDobbs/Loblaw/Whatever
True, neither guest was stirring up hate, they failed trying.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Boilerplate much, Jeff? Looks like an awful lot of copypasta.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Rather funny. Good find.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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To answer your question: no. I am a member of the Church of Scientology in Los Angeles. And I run a blog and website called Scientology Myths (scientologymyths.wordpress.com)
To comment on your link: childish. Yes, I am commenting a lot on Scientology issues. You can google my name and will find some of them. And yes, I did comment a lot in the past week, same or similar on same or similar articles. Do you expect me to change my opinion from article to article?
I see you got busy after I went to work. And how about yourself, you don't have a job?
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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lolo, could you format your prewritten comments? They are really hard to read.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Dude, may I invite you to look at the address bar of your browser? What do you see? Does it say "scientology.org"?
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Hubbard jr. didn't write a book. That book was written by someone who did not know L. Ron Hubbard, Bent Corydon.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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You know, the most simple thing should be done here: look it up on http://www.scientology.org/faq/scientology-beliefs/what-is-the-concept-of-god-in-scientology.html :
Does Scientology have a concept of God?
Most definitely. In Scientology, the concept of God is expressed as the Eighth Dynamic—the urge toward existence as infinity. This is also identified as the Supreme Being. As the Eighth Dynamic, the Scientology concept of God rests at the very apex of universal survival. As L. Ron Hubbard wrote in Science of Survival:
“No culture in the history of the world, save the thoroughly depraved and expiring ones, has failed to affirm the existence of a Supreme Being. It is an empirical observation that men without a strong and lasting faith in a Supreme Being are less capable, less ethical and less valuable to themselves and society....A man without an abiding faith is, by observation alone, more of a thing than a man.”
Unlike religions with Judeo-Christian origins, the Church of Scientology has no set dogma concerning God that it imposes on its members. As with all its tenets, Scientology does not ask individuals to accept anything on faith alone. Rather, as one’s level of spiritual awareness increases through participation in Scientology auditing and training, one attains his own certainty of every dynamic. Accordingly, only when the Seventh Dynamic (spiritual) is reached in its entirety will one discover and come to a full understanding of the Eighth Dynamic (infinity) and one’s relationship to the Supreme Being.
Scientology seeks to bring one to a new level of spiritual awareness where one can reach his own conclusions concerning the nature of God and what lies beyond this present lifetime. Thus, like many Eastern religions, salvation in Scientology is attained through personal spiritual growth and enlightenment.
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Bob, stop being ignorant of facts. Hawkins is hanging out with Anonymous regularly and runs with their criminal agenda. Here are some more examples, sourced by the US State Attorney:
- Another member of the hate group Anonymous, Jacob Speregen, was sentenced September 20, 2010, in New York City Criminal Court in connection with a January 8, 2009, attack on the Church of Scientology of New York. (People vs. Almahadin, Mahoud; Criminal Docket 2009NY007516).
- On Monday, May 24, 2010, Los Angeles Federal District Judge Gary Allen Feess sentenced Brian Thomas Mettenbrink of Grand Island, Nebraska, to 12 months in federal prison and a $20,000 restitution fine for engaging in a cyberattack in January 2008 on Church of Scientology websites (CR No. 09-1149-GAF). Mettenbrink is a member of the hate group “Anonymous,” many members of which have been investigated or convicted of federal and state crimes over the past three years.
- Dmitriy Guzner, 19, of Verona, New Jersey, is presently incarcerated in Federal prison for his role in the distributed denial of service (DDOS) attack against Scientology websites. A DDOS attack occurs when a large amount of malicious Internet traffic is directed at websites, overloading their capacity and making them unavailable to legitimate users. Due to the severity of the crime, Judge Joseph Greenaway in U.S. District Court in Newark sentenced Guzner to the 366-day prison term, plus two years probation following his prison term, and ordered Guzner to pay $37,500 restitution to the Church.
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Bob, the US State Attorney does not share your opinion. One of many examples (as many Anonymous members were convicted and are in jail right at this time):
United States Attorney’s Office
Central District of California
Thom Mrozek
Public Affairs Officer
October 17, 2008
NEW JERSEY MAN CHARGED WITH ATTACKING CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY WEBSITES IN THE NAME OF ‘ANONYMOUS’
LOS ANGELES – A New Jersey man was charged today for his role in an attack on Church of Scientology websites in January 2008 that rendered the websites unavailable.
Dmitriy Guzner, 18, of Verona, New Jersey, has agreed to plead guilty to computer hacking for his role in the distributed denial of service (DDOS) attack against the Scientology websites. A DDOS attack occurs where a large amount of malicious Internet traffic is directed at a website or a set of websites. The target websites are unable to handle the high volume of Internet traffic and therefore become unavailable to legitimate users trying to reach the sites.
According to the criminal information filed in United States District Court in Los Angeles, Guzner participated in the attack because he considered himself a member of an underground group called “Anonymous.” “Anonymous” has led protests against the Church of Scientology at various locations across the country, and in January 2008 posted a video on YouTube which announced a new offensive against Scientology.
Release No. 08-140 – original here: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pressroom/pr2008/140.html
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So, who gives a flying f**k about what Haggis "feels reminded" about? I feel reminded about a lot of things reading the anti-scientology crap that he's spitting about. So what? His personal opinion be as it may, he's not been a Scientologist for most of his life (oh yeah, a great pretender, sure) and ran off with a ridiculous justification he knew was a lie. This New Yorker article is full of personal opinion and things any Scientologist knows from personal experience to be lies. Everyone can walk into a Church of Scientology and find out what is going on there. And should, because "sources" like Haggis are running on an agenda and axe to grind and not on the purpose to inform anyone.
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Here is what this is about:
What is an Apostate, or "ex-member"?
From the American Heritage Dictionary: One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.
Usually apostates are called ex-members or former members.
Lonnie Kliever, Professor of Religious Studies at the Southern Methodist University, says about apostates:
"There is no denying that these (apostates) present a distorted view of the new religions to the public, the academy, and the courts by virtue of their ready availability and eagerness to testify against their former religious associations and activities."
The full Study: The Reliability of Apostate Testimony About New Religious Movements
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Not prejudiced, paid. With a favor, with money or some special service having to do with their lower backside.
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Jeff Hawkins talking about Scientology??? That's just ridiculous. Check this out: http://www.freedommag.org/special-reports/cnn/jeff-hawkins-sympathy-for-the-devil.html
“He is a liar to the core.” says the former wife of Jeff Hawkins to Anderson Cooper
Also for the record: Hawkins holds the dubious distinction of not only lying to his wife and colleagues, he also lied point-blank to Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard... Which, when he finally copped to it, is how he came to lose his job as a Church copywriter.
Whereupon, he pretty much wrote himself out of the Church entirely and scurried away in 2005. It was also at this juncture he wrote himself out of his marriage with a (dirty) laundry list of moral transgressions.
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As for his own performance, Hawkins portrays himself as a lonely Scientologist abandoned and forsaken after leaving the Church.
It is not entirely true. For within no time at all he had joined a small cadre of kindred souls who call themselves Anonymous.
Cooper himself makes passing mention of it, and “innocently” describes them as an “anti-Scientology” protest group—which, in a sense, is correct.
Although for “protest” read: bomb threats leveled at Churches of Scientology, death threats leveled at prominent Scientologists, threats of anthrax attacks leveled at the congregation in general and cyberattacks leveled at Scientology computer networks. Accordingly, Anonymous is presently under United States federal investigation for hate crimes against the Church while two members were recently convicted and sentenced. (See CooperSpeak: How Terrorists Become “Protesters.”)
So, no, Hawkins was not exactly forsaken after leaving the Church. But good gracious! What sort of sympathy could he possibly elicit were we to know he was running with an honest to goodness terrorist organization? While as for Cooper (and our sympathies are with you, Anderson), one can hardly blame him for failing to mention those pesky particulars concerning Hawkins and Anonymous.
After all, the whole premise of his show was that one couldn’t possibly know who was lying and who was not and viewers had to decide for themselves.
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Another radio stations that fell into the trap of some propaganda artists. Lame.
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