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Show me any human...ANY human who has the abilities of a Clear or an OT as stated by L Ron.
If OTs existed, there would be no critics.
Scientology does not deliver what it promises.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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Agreed.
Mormonism only flourished as it did because there was no internet and they had time to grow in isolation from others.
If they started the same time as scientology, they would be having the same problems.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@Tom
I was raised catholic but refused to be confirmed.
No one shunned me. No one excommunicated me.
Scientology isn't kidding around. They don't want the few people they have left being affected by people who don't buy into the cult.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@JeanneBa
I must assume you have not yet reached OT III.
There is no god, it is an implant.
I hope I didn't ruin the ending for you.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@Joel, in order to leave the Sea Org in good standing, one must pay a "free loader debt" which is not enforceable by U.S. law, but people who are afraid of never being able to have scientology services again or being disconnected from their loved ones pay it.
How much did your 2 step children have to pay to be allowed to leave?
This is one aspect where the comparison of the Sea Org and the military is especially a joke. Members of the military can eventually leave and then get VA care if needed, pensions, etc.
Sea Org members have to pay to leave, no matter HOW long they were in.
And they are kicked out when too old or sick to work any longer. No benefits, no nothing.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@turbotad
The link you gave in addition to http://orgsaroundtheworld.wordpress.com/author/turbotad/
shows you do a lot for promoting scientology, but I guess it is all for free.
Assuming you listened to the show, please write what lies about your friends were stated.
Thanks in advance.
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@JeanneBa
Assuming you were allowed to listen to the show, please write out what parts you disagreed with or felt were lies.
Thanks in advance.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@Louanne
I would love to hear a radio show with scientologists as quests. But repeating the phrase "go look on our website" everytime one asks a question would get old.
And never talking about Xenu? That would be boring as well.
Also, the scientology guest would have to agree to take questions from callers.
But please feel free to ask your bosses if this would be possible.
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@Penny
Jeff was in from 1967 to 2005:
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/hawkins.shtml
posted 2 years, 3 months ago
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@Louanne part 2
Jeff Hawkins is unrelated to anonymous. Many in anonymous support his quest to be heard and enjoy his self examination as to how he and others were drawn into this cult and stayed so long.
His blog here: http://counterfeitdreams.blogspot.com/ is an excellent read. I really cannot recommend it enough. I have seen his ex-wife in action and would have negative things to say about her. But after reading his entire story, I can see what she has been through and hope she too can escape one day.
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@Louanne
Louanne is a person or several persons whose job it is to fill comment boards with negative comments about scientology critics.
It is easiest for her to do so with ex-scientologists like Mr. Hawkins because the cult keeps records of any "confessions" (auditing sessions, security checks) and they feel free to release this personal information if it helps in their aim of hurting the credibility of the critic.
The Freedom mag (a scientology organ, please do read it for a good laugh) article she mentions occurred after Jeff Hawkins and other critics appeared on several episodes of Anderson Cooper 360 discussing violence within the upper echelons of scientology. Freedom magazine also tried to character assassinate Anderson Cooper. http://www.freedommag.org/special-reports/cnn/tricks-of-the-trade.html
If you wish to see the episodes themselves, they are very interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mackiesyotub#p/u/10/x3t86Y3zdwA
There are multiple videos, but they are all in one place. You can also go directly to the Anderson Copper 360 website:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/category/church-of-scientology/
You can see Mr. Hawkins for yourself and compare his response to what his ex-wife says, knowing that he knows the pressure she is under to make him look bad.
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