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I sat down and spoke with Mr. Cahill this morning in his classroom.  We both were able to talk about where we were coming from and our motivations behind our respective stands.  We have agreed to disagree at this time, but have left the door open for future discussions.  I also appologized to him for the "yes" answer and apparent belittling of his ability as a director.  I told him that was never my intention, but that I would be willing to help in future productions if he wanted me to.  He was very gracious and I anticipate that we will have many other opportunities for discussions in the future.  We are not, at this time, ready to collaborate in either area.  However, if you want an example of how drama can be used effectively in the church, I would be happy to send you a copy of last Sunday's service where the "sermon" was actually a monologue.  It was great fun and very effective.  If you would ever like to talk about any of this feel free to let me know.

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lesleyg,

I agree we should sit down with both sides and talk about what we have learned from this experience and from the play.  I have already begun to do this by sitting down with Mr. Cahill this morning and discussing our differences.  We have agreed to disagree that this time, but we have left the door open for further discussion in the future.  Maybe next time we can have more people involved in the dialogue.

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whywob,

It is interesting to me that you would bash me for leading a "censorship charge" without reading or hearing the entire thing I want censored and then make the statement, "with no theatrical experience," later on.  The reality is that I do have theatrical experience (though not nearly on the level of Mr. Cahill) and from that experience I know that when you are casting a play you give lines that express the type of material that will be in a play without giving all of them.  Based on that experience, I drew a conclusion that there was probably more objectionable material in the rest of the play.  Later, I did obtain and read an entire manuscript of the play and found that my conclusions were correct.  Had I not been correct, I would have admitted it.

It is also interesting to me that you would say, "religion has no place in school other than as historical or antropological study."  Isn't that censorship?

Finally, I want you to know that after I listened to the re-airing of the program last night, I went and met with Mr. Cahill this morning and told him I had mis-spoken with the "yes" answer and that I was not trying to become his co-director, but that I was willing to help him in the future.  We have agreed to disagree on the matter of this play and intend to continue the discussion at a later date.

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Mr. Ford,

I am sorry that your relatives, friends, and others, have had that experience in the Nazarene Church.  It angers me, as well, when false teachings invade the church (or any organization), especially when it hurts people.  I realize that people are not perfect and there are always individuals that take things to extremes.  However, I know, from personal experience, that is not the stand or teaching of the Nazarene denomination.  I have attended the Nazarene Schools, I have traveled all across the United States (100 churches in 2 years), I have read all of our beliefs and standards and I have never run into this teaching or belief from the denomination.  Once again, I am sorry they had to endure these lies.  I am still open to talk if you want to.

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Mr. Ford,

I have been in the Nazarene church for over 37 years.  In that time, I have never heard, read about in our Manual and bylaws, nor taught(preached) this about children.  Nor do I treat my children this way.  I am afraid that your "very reliable source" is mistaken and I would encourage you to search out this issue for yourself.  If you would like to talk to me about it, I am more than willing.  Just let me know.

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